Best Time?

[Cavanman]

Hey all, just wonderin if there's a best time ta go fishin for roach/rudd? I want to spend a day fishing at the weekend, and just wonderin if i'd gain anything from starting out good and early?

[Cavanman]

Does nobody know the answer or is it a stupid question??

[sammy-boy]

well rudd are surface feeders so whether bright light and heat drive them to deeper cooler water im not such. if i was you id go at 4am -9am. as its the summer 4-5 30ish will be cool and by 7 30 it will be roasting. that way your soon work it out my friend

[sammy-boy]

ps sorry i didnt see this yesterday else i would of replied mate

[Cavanman]

sounds pretty early ta me but sure i'll give it a go! cheers for the reply dude

[mrwell]

Rudd/Roach feed well in the summer and close to the surface in fact they take off the surface most of the time....best time is before 11am and after 2pm...these seem to be the times fish go into there non feeding faze but a lot depends on the venue you are fishing....just loose feed some maggots and wait dont put in at that point just wait until you see swirls on the water surface that tells you they are feeding......get them into a good feeding frenzy then and only then put your hook bait in you will find you get a take very quickly....it is important to keep the feed going in....casters,hemp,sweetcorn,maggots any of these will do....if you are getting hammered by the small fish(and you will be)then you have to go down because that is where the bigger roach/rudd will be.....dont think that rudd only feed off the top because more often than not they wait a little way below the surface and take on the drop that's why getting your set up just right is so important....light tackle....4lb main...2lb hook length.....small hook size 20.....small waggler and get the bait to fall nice and slow.....it is a bit of a gamble if there are big carp in the water using this light gear but if you use bigger you will miss a lot of takes for sure....but the main thing is feed and a lot of it at this time of year that's why i take bread...liquidized so i have a nice soft feed that i can lay down with some sweetcorn added...it is cheap but very effective..you can add groundbait(if allowed)or hemp all are good attractants and holding baits but your main point of attack is getting them on the drop....try seeing how your bait falls through the water at home just put your set up in a big container of clear water....hook with bait on and shots on line and see how fast it drops if it sinks like a bomb then it is too heavy...if it floats then it is too light...you need a bait that falls under its own weight through the water and you will get those Roach/Rudd

[Cavanman]

Thanks a million for the tips Mr. Well. really appreciate it. there's no carp in the lake i'm going to fish. few pike maybe and that's it so my hook should be safe. I'll take a bucket of a breadcrumb mix with me and throw in a ball every now and then to keep them where i want them. I'm gonna try a few different baits to see what luck i have with them, and pretty much just enjoy the day and hopefully get a few good ones This really is a brill site for amateurs like myself, cheers everyone